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If i'm not mistaken, I believe there's speculation that a lot of idiomatic english verbs are actually (D-Structure) seperable prefix verbs ala german. So maybe we're really making verbs from nouns using "up" as a seperable prefix/sometimes intensifier. Like maybe "beering it up" is really "to upbeer" and the it is there in the same way that "it Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5719279.post-1133916414032548362005-12-06T19:46:00.000-05:002005-12-06T19:46:00.000-05:00Another possibility is that up may have undergone ...Another possibility is that <I>up</I> may have undergone semantic changes historically. Perhaps it didn't always mean "away from the center of the earth" as vehemently as it does now. Again, I'd look in the OED for hints at its semantic history.<BR/><BR/>I remembered a usage of "VI it up" from my childhood, which matches your criteria for the new usage. When I was playing softball, people Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5719279.post-1133627961118744682005-12-03T11:39:00.000-05:002005-12-03T11:39:00.000-05:00thanks for the comment, ACW. I checked in with the...thanks for the comment, ACW. I checked in with the OED online, and you seem very right. "eat up" is "to consume completely, eat without leaving any, devour or devastate".<BR/><BR/>it's interesting to note, though, that this leaves the question of metaphoricity open: in what sense is this type of eating involved with the direction 'up', as lakoff and johnson would have to claim. <BR/><BR/>also, Cristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794033331046211307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5719279.post-1133567445571540552005-12-02T18:50:00.000-05:002005-12-02T18:50:00.000-05:00In some of the old examples, like "eat up", that c...In some of the old examples, like "eat up", that can take objects, the "up" seems to carry a sense of completely exhausting some resource, like food. I don't know what the etymology is, though. I bet the OED would have info at <I>eat</I>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5719279.post-1133302712490387442005-11-29T17:18:00.000-05:002005-11-29T17:18:00.000-05:00i have the same intuition you do about rap, but al...i have the same intuition you do about rap, but also the same lack of evidence. <BR/><BR/>it did just occur to me that there is a set of verbs to which we add 'it', but no 'up', like 'kick it.' <BR/><BR/>but figuring out what expression came first - which usage is the OG, know? - poses interesting methodological problems.Cristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794033331046211307noreply@blogger.com